NLHE > PLO
NewbSaibot, Jan 12 2026
Been sorting HH's by largest pots won on ClubWPT just to see the epic action (in case you didnt know you can open any existing table and just go back in time and see every hand played even if you werent there)
and feel like I've noticed a trend; people are making much bigger mistakes in NLHE than PLO. There seems to be this mantra that PLO is where aLL ThE AcTiOn iS, and while there does appears to be a higher frequency of action, many of the pots are just kinda average in size around 100BB's. Like even the worst players manage to have at least a shred of equity to bail them out by the river. Calling a 4bet with J852r doesnt seem like a good idea but then he's up against AA and KK and hits bottom pair and whaddya know. But in NLHE I'm seeing allins for 500BB pots with 88, A3s, JJ, etc. Many times even postflop! The board will be something like J92s and AA will x/r rip it and some fish snaps with AJ or TT and loses 4k at 5/10/20. I just saw a 12k pot go 3 ways aipf with KQs, AA, and KJo. You just dont see this at PLO.
Back to sales
NewbSaibot, Jan 11 2026
Ran into a bunch of red tape trying to get back into sales and ended up having someone pull a favor for me and got me selling motorcycles for a minute but there was literally no money in that at all. I finally got back into car sales after the GM gave everyone a 30% paycut and lost 4 guys as a result. He reached out to me personally to invite me back which I took to mean something. I start tomorrow. 2 of my friends who stuck it out made 13.4k and 9200 last month with the paycut. Thats fine by me, heck I'd be happy making even half of that. I feel pretty confident this time with some new strategies and a little Ai wizardry for some protips & basic scripts.
No particular plans to get back into poker. I chased a couple of micro deposit bonuses but nothing panned out. If I can normalize making 5k+ at sales then I think it's time to truly hang it up in poker and accept the grind of car sales. I chose not to pursue higher education and just fuck around all my life so for guys like me it's basically always going to be service industry minimum wage work. I should be happy I stumbled into this car sales thing and can crush it for a decent income. Sales really is the last bastion for high earners with no education.
He hurt me
NewbSaibot, Nov 08 2025
Long story short; took a shot at 5/5 PLO. Local whale sat to my left and wanted to make it a 5/5/10/25 double straddle game, I refused because I'm shortrolled so he made it his mission to try and break me. He did. Was in for 500 and ran it up to 4k, get it allin preflop with him for 9k pot with AAK3ss, he wins with T857r and ended my poker career. Havent played in 3 weeks. Got a job starting next week making minimum wage so back to the motel life for me. Put 200 on ClubWPT just to go back to my NLHE blueprint from years ago and was doing pretty well at 10/20/40cent, until I got stacked on all 4 tables at the same time holding KK/KK/QQ/55. 3 opponents had AA and I got set over set on 2 of them. Cant even get mad, best hands won. Even though these are just $40 buyin tables I snapped like all those years ago and trashed my monitor, nightstand and glass drinking bottle. Complete loss of control just watching myself go into sitout mode all over the screen. It didnt even break me, I still have 300 online. I'm such a fucking loser I know. Anyway I should be moving out of this apartment by the end of the week unless I get a job waiting tables. Someone told me thats surprisingly well paying work, never done it before though.
And the truly sick thing is this is precisely one of the reasons I started heavily gravitating towards PLO. I just dont tilt at the game, like at all. I dont know if it's because im just new to the game and dont understand variance & equities so I brush off the outcomes, or if I just respect the variance and recognize I cant get mad because it's just the nature of the game. Big hands are rare in NLHE so it just feels so crushing when you finally get one and lose anyway, whereas in PLO it feels like every orbit you pick up something nutworthy. I also notice I get sweaty and super stressed playing NLHE to the point I can only play 3 hours or so whereas PLO I can easily play 6-8. I cant even play NLHE more than 400BB deep without getting panicky but in PLO I have no winstop at all which I'm sure is how you should be approaching both games. Psychologically PLO seems to be healthier for me, if I only I knew the strat.
I ended my NLHE career at 2/5 with a $40/hr winrate over a 146 hour sample this season.
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